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Speculation? Second guessing? Accusations of Trump being a neocon, a warmonger? Even some daring to compare him to Hitler? Take a hard look at the cost of freedom.  10,000 of our own were lost at Normandy.  We fought to annihilate a dire threat, to prevent it from ever being posed again. To decisively end it.

We didn’t fight to satisfy a “status quo”, to “win hearts and minds”, or be culturally correct.  Our troops were not hamstrung by fallacious, self destructive “rules of engagement”.

If we retained that mindset, and not cow towed to the U.N. in 1950, Korea would have been made a free country.  That “police action” cost us 33,600 killed in action.  More than 8,100 are still missing.  Exact statistics vary with different sources; from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war

The threats we face today do not deserve one drop of American blood, for the sake of a “status quo”.  War is a last resort; and only when there is a clear, direct threat to us.  Moreover, this enemy will use any means to win; there are no clear battle lines, their guerilla tactics call for an entirely different approach.  Any of them, age notwithstanding can be a combatant.  When not warring with us, they are at war with themselves.  They seek to destroy our culture and replace it with theirs.  We shouldn’t be drawn into Syria, or other middle east involvement.  We’ve lost too many of our own, and spent too much.

Remember –

 

Having viewed Trump’s delivery, and his endorsement by Sarah Palin, one of the points made reminded me of Reagan’s statement about peace through strength.  I felt the need to bring up an old post, because we dare not forget.  X

In “Soon To Be Gone” https://partneringwitheagles.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/soon-to-be-gone/

We see the vanishing group who gave so much not just to preserve America, but prevent the entire world from falling victim to tyranny.

The youngest surviving WWII vet is probably 88, if born in 1927, making him/her 17 in 1944; in time to have joined one of the branches of service, and see action before the war’s end in 1945.

Since then, the “wars and rumors of wars” (Matt 24) have cost many more American lives.  None of these, in this bloggers opinion, save Korea, was worth sacrificing a single one.  Korea,  a  “police action”, prevented us from prosecuting it without endless hamstringing, and without  total victory as our goal, as was done in WWII.  It ended ( ? ) with no peace treaty. This war resulted in the cost of American lives stated below:

Korean War Casualties

The Department of Defense reports that 54,246 American service men and women lost their lives during the Korean War. This includes all losses worldwide. Since the Korean War Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C. honors all U.S. military who lost their lives during the war, we have tried to obtain the names of service members who died during the period of June 27, 1950 to July 27, 1954. Accessible electronically at the memorial is an Honor Roll database where all 54,246 should be listed. Unfortunately, a fire at the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, Mo. destroyed many of the records of service personnel and a complete listing is not available. To date the database includes the names of nearly 39,000 service men and women who died during that period, including the 8,196 missing that are listed on our Honolulu Memorial. The Korean War Honor Roll database, including photographs, is available on this website. As there has been no peace treaty, Americans who lost their lives in the demilitarized zone of Korea since the armistice have been included. The 8,196 Americans who were missing in action, or lost or buried at sea and commemorated at the Honolulu Memorial are included in the database at the Korean War Veterans Memorial.

 http://www.abmc.gov/wardead/listings/korean_war.php

Four decades after Vietnam,  which resulted in these statistics-

United States armed forces Casualties as of 18 April 2013:

  • 58,282 KIA or non-combat deaths (including the missing & deaths in captivity)[36]

  • 303,644 WIA (including 153,303 who required hospitalization and 150,341 who didn’t)[37]

  • 1,649 MIA (originally 2,646)[38]

  • 725-779 POW (660 freed/escaped,[39] 65-119 died in captivity)[40][41]

During the Vietnam War, 30% of wounded service members died of their wounds.[42]

The South Korean’s suffered casualties assisting us:

South Korea   5,099 KIA   11,232 WIA  4 MIA[77]

Other casualties-  over 1.1million North Vietnamese army and Viet Cong, and many civilian innocents after the U.S. withdrawal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

WE FIND OUT THAT THE GULF OF TONKIN INCIDENT WAS TRUMPED UP:

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, 40 Years Later

Flawed Intelligence and the Decision for War in Vietnam

Washington, D.C., 4 August 2004 –  Forty years ago today, President Johnson and top U.S. officials chose to believe  that North Vietnam had just attacked U.S. destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin, even though the highly classified signals intercepts they cited to each other actually described a naval clash two days earlier (a battle prompted by covert U.S. attacks on North Vietnam), according to the declassified intercepts, Johnson White House tapes, and related documents posted today by the National  Security Archive at George Washington University.

Compiled by Archive senior fellow and Vietnam expert John Prados, today’s 40th anniversary electronic briefing book includes Dr. Prados’s detailed analysis of the intercepts – only declassified  in 2003 – together with audio files and transcripts of the key  Tonkin Gulf conversations between President Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara. The latter are excerpted from Dr. Prados’s  book, The White House Tapes (New York: The New Press, 2003). The posting also contains photographs and charts from the Tonkin Gulf incident courtesy of the U.S. Naval Historical Center, a detailed documentary chronology compiled by the State Department’s Office of the Historian for the Foreign Relations of the United States series, a CIA Special National Intelligence Estimate on possible North Vietnamese responses to U.S. actions from MaY 1964 (just declassified in June 2004), and links to previous and upcoming Archive publications on Vietnam.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/

Our Vietnam Vets came home to a hostile public, and a severely divided nation.  I feel that there is NO NEED to be the “World’s Boy Scout”.

Iraq, and Afghanistan have proven to be quagmires we didn’t need. NO MORE sacrificing any more American lives to ungrateful,  belligerent,  and otherwise diametrically opposed “cultures” who would see us fall.  NOT ONE!  If we EVER prosecute a war, it had better be only with Congressional, not any other entity’s “approval”.  It should also be understood that our national security is genuinely in danger, not for corporate interests;  the U.N. can go shove it, that we’re in to WIN, and the belligerents can D**n well rebuild themselves with their funds, not ours.   ‘Nuff said.

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