This excellent thrashing of Darwinism is very long; I put the hyperlink here, in order for you to see Part II on PAN’s “Cornerstone Nation” 

http://cornerstonenation.patriotactionnetwork.com/2012/02/25/the-agreement-part-ii/

 The Agreement.

Posted on February 25, 2012 by rev.larry

This is a compiling of posts, articles and such from a discussion…to help consolidate and FOCUS the discussion I culled together the below posts…as much as I could I deleted all names but my own, and of The Scientists quoted. If any others are left in I’M SORRY, I APOLOGISE…and please notify me and I will delete them.

 Quotes from Famous Scientists

Johannes Kepler [1571-1630]
Astronomy/Laws of Planetary Motion
“I had the intention of becoming a theologian…but now I see how God is, by my endeavors, also glorified in astronomy, for ‘the heavens declare the glory of God.’”
“I am a Christian…I believe… only and alone in the service of Jesus Christ…In Him is all refuge, all solace.”
“Let my name perish if only the name of God the Father is thereby elevated.”
“[God] is the kind Creator who brought forth nature out of nothing.”
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Blaise Pascal [1623-1662]
Scientist noted for work in physics, hydrostatics, vacuums; inventor of mechanical calculator
“Jesus Christ, I have separated myself from Him:
I have fled from Him, denied Him, crucified Him.
Let me never be separated from Him.
We keep hold of Him only by the ways taught in the Gospel.
Renunciation, total and sweet.
Total submission to Jesus Christ…”
{from a manuscript dated Monday November 23, 1654 and found in his own handwriting in his coat at his death}

“Knowing God without knowing our own wretchedness engenders pride. Knowing our own wretchedness without knowing God engenders despair.” [Pascal – Pensees no 527]
*Also famous for “Pascal’s Wager”–a powerful defense of the Christian faith
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Robert Boyle [1627-1691]
Founder of Modern Chemistry/Gas Dynamics
Governor of Missionary organization for propagating the gospel in New England
Personally financed the translation of the Bible into Irish, Turkish, and Arabic
Author of “The Christian Virtuoso” reflecting on the study of nature for Christians
Author of Christian devotional book, “Occasional Reflections”
His will after his death financed the “Boyle Lectures” which were lectures in defense of Christianity
“From a knowledge of His work, we shall know Him”
“Christ’s passion, His death, His resurrection and ascension, and all of those wonderful works which He did during His stay upon earth, in order to confirm mankind in the belief of His being God as well as man.”
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Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
Mathematician, Physicist
Inventor of calculus
Law of universal gravitation
Newton’s three laws of motion:
1) Law of inertia 2) Force=mass*acceleration 3) Principle of action and reaction
Published “Newton’s Prophecies of Daniel”
after his study and translation of the Book of Daniel [in the Bible]
“About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the Prophecies, and insist upon their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamor and opposition.”

There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history.”

” This thing [a scale model of our solar system] is but a puny imitation of a much grander system whose laws you know, and I am not able to convince you that this mere toy is without a designer and maker; yet you, as an atheist, profess to believe that the great original from which the design is taken has come into being without either designer or maker! Now tell me by what sort of reasoning do you reach such an incongruous conclusion?”

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Sir William Herschel [1738-1822]
Astronomist. Discovered Uranus, several nebulae, and binary stars.
First to accurately describe the Milky Way Galaxy
“All human discoveries seem to be made only for the purpose of confirming more and more
the Truths contained in the Sacred Scriptures.”
“The undevout astronomer must be mad.”
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Samuel Morse [1791-1872]
Inventor of the telegraph [Morse’s sketch of the railway telegraph above]
“Education without religion is in danger of substituting wild theories for the simple commonsense rules of Christianity.”
First message sent by the electric telegraph:
“What hath God wrought”
{This is found in the Bible; Numbers 23:23}
{The message was sent from the Supreme Court Room in the Capitol to the railway depot at Baltimore; May 24, 1844}
{In one letter, Samuel Morse wrote “What hath GOD wrought” by capitalizing and underlining “GOD” twice!}
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Michael Faraday [1791-1867]
Inventor of the electric generator and the transformer
Discovered Benzene–used to make plastics, nylon and dyes
Produced the first test tubes
Described Field Theory
*Hailed by Albert Einstein as the foundation for his own scientific discoveries
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Elder in his church for over 20 years
“Speculations? I have none. I am resting on certainties. ‘I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day.’”
A Christian finds his guide in the Word of God, and commits the keeping of his soul into the hands of God. He looks for no assurance beyond what the Word can give him, and if his mind is troubled by the cares and fears which assail him, he can go nowhere but in prayer to the throne of
grace and to Scripture.”
“Since peace is alone in the gift of God; and as it is He who gives it, why should we be afraid? His unspeakable gift in His beloved Son is the ground of no doubtful hope.” –[1861 letter]
“The Bible, and it alone, with nothing added to it nor taken away from it by man, is the sole and sufficient guide for each individual, at all times and in all circumstances…For faith in the divinity and work of Christ is the gift of God, and the evidence of this faith is obedience to the commandment of Christ.”
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Matthew Maury [1806-1873]
The “Father” of oceanography
Aided in the laying of the first trans-Atlantic cable
Maury believed Psalm 8:8, which speaks of the “paths of the seas” , and he discovered “oceanic currents”
Maury described atmospheric circulation and showed that it was already described in Ecclesiastes 1:6
Maury showed Job 28:25 to be true with respect to the weight of the winds.

The Bible is true and science is true, and therefore each, if truly read, but proves the truth of the other.”
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James Prescott Joule [1818-1889]
Described the First Law of Thermodynamics: The Law of Conservation of Energy
[American Biochemist Isaac Asimov said that the First Law of Thermodynamics is
“one of the most important generalizations in the history of science”]
Kinetic Theory of Gases
“Joule-Thomson” effect–the basis of refrigeration

A unit of energy [work] in physics is now called a “joule”

“It is evident that an acquaintance with natural laws means no less than
an acquaintance with the mind of God therein expressed.”
“Order is manifestly maintained in the universe…governed by the sovereign will of God”
“After the knowledge of, and obedience to, the will of God, the next aim must be to know something of His attributes of wisdom, power, and goodness as evidenced by His handiwork.”
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James Clerk Maxwell [1831-1879]
Statistical Thermodynamics, Field equations of electricity, magnetism, light

” No theory of evolution can be formed to account for the similarity of molecules,
for evolution necessarily implies continuous change.”

“Almighty God, Who has created man in Thine own image, and made him a living soul that he might seek after Thee,
and have dominion over Thy creatures, teach us to study the works of Thy hands, that we may subdue the earth to our use, and strengthen the reason for Thy service; so to receive Thy blessed Word, that we may believe on Him Who Thou has sent, to give us the knowledge of salvation and the remission of our sins. All of which we ask in the name of the same Jesus Christ, our Lord.” {prayer written by Maxwell and found amongst his notes}

Maxwell was an elder in the church he helped establish near his home.
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Louis Pasteur [1822-1895]
Father of Microbiology, developed “pasteurization”

“The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator.”
“Science brings men nearer to God.”

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Jean-Henri Fabre [1823-1915]
Entomology, Biology
Author of 8-volume series “Souvenirs Entomologiques”
detailing the behavior and life history of many species

“Without Him, I understand nothing; without Him, all is darkness…Every period has its manias.
I regard Atheism as a mania. It is the malady of the age.
You could take my skin from me more easily than my faith in God.”
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Sir Joseph Lister [1827-1912]
Father of antiseptic surgery, first to wire fractures, developed dissolving sutures
“I am a believer in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity”
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Lord Kelvin [William Thomson] [1824-1907]
Physicist, Laws of Thermodynamics, Absolute temperature scale, inventor
“With regard to the origin of life, science…positively affirms creative power.”
“Overwhelmingly strong proofs of intelligent and benevolent design lie around us…
the atheistic idea is so non-sensical that I cannot put it into words.”

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George Washington Carver [c. 1864-1943]
agricultural chemist, inventor of over 300 products
“Without my Savior, I am nothing.”
“I love to think of nature as an unlimited broadcasting station,
through which God speaks to us every hour, if we will only tune in.”
“God is going to reveal to us things he never revealed before if we put our hands in his. No books ever go into my laboratory, a thing I am to do and the way of doing it are revealed me.”
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Wernher Von Braun [1912-1977]; first Director of NASA, pioneer of space exploration
“Scientific concepts exist only in the minds of men.
Behind these concepts lies the reality which is being revealed to us, but only by the grace of God.”

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Here is More “Random Acts Of SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE” :

www.icr.org/fossils-stasis/ 

Fossils Show Stasis and No Transitional Forms

 -Rev. Larry Wallenmeyer- P.A.N. Admin.

The fossil record reflects the original diversity of life, not an evolving tree of increasing complexity. There are many examples of “living fossils,” where the species is alive today and found deep in the fossil record as well.

According to evolution models for the fossil record, there are three predictions:

1. wholesale change of organisms through time
2. primitive organisms gave rise to complex organisms
3. gradual derivation of new organisms produced transitional forms.

However, these predictions are not borne out by the data from the fossil record.

Trilobites, for instance, appear suddenly in the fossil record without any transitions. There are no fossils between simple single-cell organisms, such as bacteria, and complex invertebrates, such as trilobites.

Extinct trilobites had as much organized complexity as any of today’s invertebrates. In addition to trilobites, billions of other fossils have been found that suddenly appear, fully formed, such as clams, snails, sponges, and jellyfish. Over 300 different body plans are found without any fossil transitions between them and single-cell organisms.

Fish have no ancestors or transitional forms to show how invertebrates, with their skeletons on the outside, became vertebrates with their skeletons inside.

Fossils of a wide variety of flying and crawling insects appear without any transitions. Dragonflies, for example, appear suddenly in the fossil record. The highly complex systems that enable the dragonfly’s aerodynamic abilities have no ancestors in the fossil record.

In the entire fossil record, there is not a single unequivocal transition form proving a causal relationship between any two species. From the billions of fossils we have discovered, there should be thousands of clear examples if they existed.

The lack of transitions between species in the fossil record is what would be expected if life was created.——–

There is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE/PROOF that Evolution as taught and believed by Evolutionists EVER transpired.

Piltdown man? HOAX.

Nebraska man? HOAX.

Java man? HOAX.

Neanderthal man? HOAX?

CroaMagna man? HOAX.

There is NO fossil record of a two reptile parents giving birth to a DOG…or a BIRD…or a HUMAN. NONE. ANYWHERE. I.e., there is NO fossil record anywhere to suggest that ANY creature transmorgified into any other creature.

Rabbits gave and give birth TO RABBITS.

Chickens gave and give birth TO CHICKENS.

Apes/monkeys gave and give birth TO APES/MONKEYS.

Humans gave and give birth TO HUMANS.

Also in some 6-12,000 YEARS of human observation there are  NO EMPIRICAL, VERIFIABLE RECORDS OF LIVING CREATURES EVOLVING FROM SAY FROGS TO SKUNKS.

In short there is NO evidence anywhere of evolution.

Oh, sure, there are some “scientists” who dress up spurious theories in scientific jargon to confuse and bamboozle…but they have not and CAN NOT produce one shred of actual, real, scientific and empircal evidence that evolution EVER took place- NOT ONE TIME.

As to Creator God using evolution to create…utterly false.

Evolution, at best, LIMITS AND RESTRICTS God. God supplied the basic mass, energy, light, elements and so-forth AND BLIND CHANCE did the rest?!! That in and of itself is spurious. And as already shown there is NO evidence anywhere of evolution- AT ALL.

God did NOT “need” evoluition to do anything.

No more than you could blow your car up and “create” a “something” even remotely useful and useable, The “Big Bang” is equally as ludicrous.

No more than 50 blind apes on PCP could design and assemble a GMC Yukon Denali, you can NOT “just get” the ENTIRE UNIVERSE in all it’s minute detail and design through a series of BLIND CHANCE ACCIDENTS.

It not only DIDN’T happen that way- it COULDN’T happen that way.

The SCIENTIFIC FACT that there is the evidence of MAN through out the entire “geological column” obliterates the MYTH of Evolution 100% on it’s face.————-

This was buried on page 11…I’m puting it here so more folks can see it, and also so ”X” can find it…this discussion thread has been so busy in so many places that posts are getting lost.

Once this is posted here I’ll delete it on page 11.

Dear Friend, “X”,

Please let me posit some MORE FACTS FROM SCIENCE.

1. Darwin said in HIS “Origin of Species”:

“The MANNER in which species belonging to several of the main divisions of the animal kingdom SUDDENLY APPEAR IN the LOWEST KNOWN fossiliferous rocks…may be truly urged as a VALID argument AGAINST the views HERE entertained.”

Darwin admitted that the fossil record did NOT support his theory/MYTH.

2. Fossil EXPERT, Gareth Nelson, said:

” The phrase ‘the fossil record’ sounds imprssive and authoritative. As used by some persons it becomes, AS INTENDED, intimidating, taking on an aura of esoteric truth as expounded by an ELITE Class of specialists. BUT WHAT IS IT REALLY, this fossil record? ONLY data in search of interpretation. ALL CALIMS TO THE CONTRARY that I KNOW, and I KNOW several, are so much SUPERSTITION.”

3. Evolutionary Biologists, Henry Gee, said:

“NO fossil is buried with its birth certificate. THAT, and the SCARCITY of fossils, means that it IS EFFECTIVELY IMPOSSIBLE to link fossils into chains of cause and effect IN ANY VALID WAY…To take a line of fossils and claim that they represent a lineage is NOT a scientific hypothesis that CAN BE TESTED, but an ASSERTION that carries the same validity of a BED-TIME STORY- amusing, perhaps even instructive, BUT NOT SCIENCTIFIC. ANY CHAIN REALLY IS: a COMPLETE human INVENTION created after the fact, SHAPED to accord with human PREJUDICES.

Lastly,

More from Fossil EXPERT, Gareth Neslon:

“The idea that one can go to the fossil record and expect to EMPIRICALLY recover an ancestor-descendant sequence, be it of SPECIES, GENERA, FAMILIES, OR WHATEVER, has been, AND CONTINUESto be, a PERNICIOUS ILLUSION.”

 In these 15 pages I’ve posited time and again FROM A HOST OF SCIENTISTS, even including some Darwinists, who admit and testify WITH THE WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE that there is NO evidence FOR Darwinian evolution whatsoever. NONE.

 I’m not “neglecting to see and look at your view” “X”…I have, and as I have stated many times your side has NO evidence, NO empirically tested and verified/verifiable science, NOR ANY Scientific PROOF…even fellow Darwininians call it a “bed-time story” a “pernicious illusion”.

 I simply call it a MYTH.—————————-

MORE SCIENCE.

University of Illinois-Urbana Microbiologist Carl R. Woese, who PIONEERED the use of 18 rRNA to construct an all-encompassing “tree of Life” and identify the “universal common ancestor” spoke of SERIOUS PROBLEMS:

“NO consistent organismal phylogeny has emerged from the many individual protien phylogenies so far produced…primitive organisms acquired MANY of their genes and protiens, NOT bt Darwinian descent with modifiaction, BUT BY lateral gene transfer FROM OTHER ORGANISMS…

there NEVER was a universal common ancestor. The Doctrine of Common Descent has DECEIVED US.”

Evolutionary Biologists W, Ford Doolittle said:

“We CAN NOT infer a UNIQUE tree of organisms from the patter of relationships among genomes WITHOUT making FURHTER ASSUMPTIONS about evolutionary processes that are JUST THAT: STILL UN-PROVEN ASSUMPTIONS! We have, for decades, thought that our job was to uncover the structure of a Tree of Life, whose reality WE NEED NOT QUESTION. BUT REALLY, what we have been doing is TESTING Darwin’s hypothesis that a tree is THE APPROPRIATE representation of Life’s History, back to the beginning. Like ANY hypothesis it could be FALSE.”

Jonathon Wells, Ph. D. wrote:

“Molecular inferences about whale ancestry CONFLICT WITH morphological inferences; molecular phylogenies of the animal phyla CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER; AND INCONSISTENCIES in molecualr phylogenies have persuaded MANY BIOLOGISTS to abandon the idea of a UNIVERSAL COMMON ANCESTOR ALTOGETHER. Yet THE MAIN PROBLEM with molecular pylogenies is NOT that they CONFLICT with the morphological EVIDENCE or WITH EACH OTHER. Their MAIN Problem is that they ASSUME the common ancestor HAS TO BE READ INTO the molecules, which BY THEMSELVES tell us NOTHING NEW OR PROFOUND. As evidence FOR Darwinism, molecualr phylogeny is NO better than reading the entralls of chickens.”

A Pernicious Illusion.

Lies and Fraud.

Superstition.

Shaped according to human prejudices.

Force fitting inferences and assupmtions…

THAT is Darwinism/Evolution.

BUT it is NOT Science.

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I have presented PROOFS AND EVIDENCE.

You (“X”) have NOT even directly replied to them let alone refute any of them directly.

I have presented SCIENTISTS AFTER SCIENTIST who ARE CHRISTIANS, who via SCIENCE, the evidences and proofs of REAL SCIENCE examined over the CENTURIES, and their SCIENTIFIC CONCLUSIONS… that ALL come down on the side of a Creator/Designer who actually Created/Designed EVERYTHING great and small throughout the universe.

Again, to which you have NOT even DIRECTLY replied let alone refuted in a direct manner.

Let me ask you some simple questions PLEASE:

1. Would you buy a $3,000 computer from the trunk of a car from someone who said “No one designed or made it…it just put itself together.” ?

2. Would you go to a Lexus Dealership and buy a Lexus SUV from a saleman who BLEW-UP a Lexus and then tells you “It’s NOW a Bentley.” ?

3. Can you honestly examine all that we do know about ONE SINGLE STRAND OF DNA and HONESTLY tell me, or anyone, that that DNA molecule is the result of a HUGE Cosmic Accident resulting from billions of years of trial-and-error?

And you can call my SCIENTIFICALLY AND REASONED Based world-view sophist, eh, call me a sophist engaging in sophistry…whatever…I have REAL SCIENCE AND EVIDENCE on my side.

1 Timothy 6:20-21 (King James Version)

20O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science FALSELY SO CALLED:

21Which some professing have ERRED concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

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“X”, please show me scientific, empirical evidence that ANY chain of ACCIDENTS AND EXPLOSIONS EVER created ANYTHING…PLEASE, show me PROOF that EVER happened.

We can discuss this as long as you want- or until we’re instructed to shut it down- but I see little point of providing quotes DIRECTLY FROM PIONEERS AND EXPERTS IN VARIOUS SCIENTIFIC FIELDS and SHOWING EVIDENCE OF MAN COINCIDING WITH DINOSAURS which evolutionists like you can blithely sweep aside and ignore.

I have proffered several sets of questions based upon reason and logic which you have not one time even directly addressed. Again, from WHERE did the essential and initial mass, energy, elements ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR EVEN ONE CELL TO BE CREATED COME?

Again, SHOW ME, SHOW US, ONE time when an EXPLOSION and a SERIES OF ACCIDENTS ever created anything.

Please show PROOF that a lizard came from a frog, or a chicken came from a bald eagle…or vice versa.

Please show PROOF that man came from apes, monkeys or chimpanzees.

And Lastly, PLEASE show where this MYTHOLOGICAL Miracle STILL TRANSPIRES. Surely if for BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF YEARS the “magic” of evolution did once take place- WHERE is even ONE example that it STILL takes place? Has even so much as ONE created being EVER turned into another in the last 6-10,000 years of observable history?

I will for now continue to answer your queries, but until you begin to ACRUALLY ADDRESS the multiplicity of EMPIRICAL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY I’ve proffered I see little point in going further in this discussion. I will do so because I view this as an oppurtunity to let REAL FACTS speak for themselves.

And because ALL of Creation, “these things”, are here AND we ARE here to observe them is NOT testimony of a Universal, Cataclysmic, Cosmic EXPLOSION and a random, NON-planned chain OF ACCIDENTS…but THE EVIDENCE AND EXISTENCE OF ALL THIS DESIGN SCREAMS OUT CLEARLY THAT THERE IS INDEED A DESIGNER/CREATOR.

To say otherwise is utter FOLLY AND NONSENSE.

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…Now let’s look at Reason, Logic, and Faith.

Let’s begin as Darwinists do with the ASSUMPTION that there is NO God, NO Creator, NO Intelligent Designer.

Next let’s set forth the absolutely ESSENTIAL-GOT-TO-HAVE-VITALLY-NECESSARY “ingrediants” that HAD TO be at “whatever and whenever the beginning is”.

FIRST, there HAD TO BE SOME AMMOUNT OF MATTER. “The Substance” from which ALL is and/or was “somehow” made.

SECONDLY, there HAD TO BE SOME AMMOUNT OF ENERGY. “The Active Agent” that “somehow” DOES, CAUSES, MOVES…the matter., and to some MAKES matter “somehow” come together and form to make “something”.

THIRDLY, there HAD TO BE SOME AMMOUNT OF ALL THE VITALLY ESSENTIAL Elements and Chemicals. This is what makes the DIFFERENCE between water and Hydrocloric acid…both of which have hydrogen in them BUT in varying degrees…and you should avoid drinking a nice cup of Hydrocloric acid.

FOURTHLY, in “The Chronicles of Darwin” view, there ABSOLUTELY MUST BE A MAJOR EXPLOSION (The Big Bang) OR A MAJOR CATACLYSM take place that “somehow” set ALL the Darwinian creation process in motion, i.e. to “jump start the creation of the ENTIRE UNIVERSE (where there had been for unknown eons NOTHING) and to “somehow”-eventually- create LIFE (where PRIOR to The Darwinian view there was NO LIFE), AND to “somehow”- eventually- create INTRELLIGENCE, REASON, LOGIC AND INTUTION (where PRIOR TO THIS there was ONLY ignorant, random, unguided chance and accident).

LASTLY, in the Darwinian view there HAD TO BE UNTOLD EONS WORTH OF BILLIONS AND BILLIONS, AND TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF YEARS for ALL this to take place, because, as every knows when ALL there is is UNguided, random, accidental, hit-and-MISS, trial-and-ERROR ACCIDENTS occuring you ABSOLUTELY NEED “gobs of time” for ALL those nasty, useless “kinks” to be “somehow” worked out. But, given countless Ka-Ba-Jillion years, eventually, “somehow” everything “just happened” to “somehow” become what we see, hear, handle, examine and observe today.

NOW, THAT IS a capsulation of the Darwinian-”scientific” world-view of:

HOW ALL came from NOTHING

LIFE “just appeared/happened”

HOW Order somehow came from utter explosive chaos

and HOW intimate, intricate, detailed DESIGN “somehow” came from a LOOOONG series of UNguided, random, accidental ACCIDENTS

 

NOW, let’s use everyday Logic & Reason.

Would ANY rational person buy or use ANYTHING that was just “somehow” assembled by a series of random, UNguided ACCIDENTS? A car? A microwave? A computer?

Would ANY rational person EAT/ingest ANYTHING that was just “somehow” prepared in ANY kitchen by blind chance and UNguided, random ACCIDENTS?

IF you’re REALLY a Darwinist you HAVE TO ANSWER: YES.

IF you’re a person who is a “slave” to logic and reason you have to answer: NO.

-Rev. Larry Wallenmeyer- P.A.N. Admin.
“Disobedience to tyrants is Obedience to God.” -Benjamin Franklin.

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